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In the 60's, on a Friday, Saturday or Monday night
the place to be was .... at The
Hop.
A HOP REUNION was held on The Hop was held at the Woodhall Community Centre, Cole Green Lane, Welwyn Garden City. Seth Rees, of Harmer Green Lane, Digswell, organised and ran The Hop dances. Don's Disco provided the interval music. Don, from Codicote, was also the manager of Wenk's Record Shop, Wigmores North, WGC. As a consequence he had the best record collection in the area. He sadly passed away in 2004. He was assisted by Eddie (Hoyle?) from WGC. Each week a different live band provided the music. The most popular artists were the local groups; The Cortinas (Octopus), Herbal Remedy, We Shake Milk, Mixed Bag, Bumps In The Night and The Trekkas.
Hop Memories Hello Dave, I don't even know how I came across the site - you know you go on one site,
link to another and bingo! How amazing to look at all those photo's! What I remember most
is coming around to your house at lunch time from Attimore School. There was the
biggest record collection, and we all sat listening and singing to - yep - The Monkees! I really do not expect you to
remember me, I was at school with your brother Peter. Hi Dave, The site seems to be growing now with all the memories and I find the whole thing quite fascinating as I'm sure others are too!! A recent addition from Ian Adamson about the dodgy electrics on stage at the hop flushed an old memory from the back of my mind. If fact I could have changed the course of rock history.... On the night The Ultimate supported The Birds, while setting up, I poked the wires from our extension lead into the socket on the side of the stage, but I think I had a round pin plug instead of the favoured match sticks. Pushing the bares wires into the socket then pushing the round pin plug in to hold the wires I got a shock plus some crackles. I ran to the other side of the stage to tell John Wallace, our vocalist. We both look over to see Ronnie Wood approach the socket. We shouted out "No Ron!" Too late, he pushed home the plug. A shower of sparks engulfed him as he shot back. He was unharmed but more worried about spark burns on his white pure wool polo neck jumper. Still, it did the trick and we had the power and the show went on. Don Fowler (Ultimate lead guitar)
The first time I sang in a band at The Hop was with the "Zeroes" in which Mick Casey played lead Guitar. I think it was Hallowe'en in 1963. I was 15 at the time and had just been recruited by the group as singer on the basis that I could do a passable impersonation of Bobby Vee singing "Baby Face". It was my first public appearance and we had decided that the opening number was to be the Contours "Do You Love Me", but as the curtains opened and I saw a sea of expectant faces before me I froze: I opened my mouth to utter the immortal words "You broke my heart 'cos I couldn't dance etc" but nothing came out. To say I was s*** scared would be an understatement. Fortunately I managed to pull myself together in time to begin the song. My career with the Zeroes was short-lived as they got themselves another singer and guitarist without telling Mick (who was only 14!) or myself. Luckily for us I was working at Lincoln Electric at the time (don't believe what Martyn Day says about my welding jacket and toetectors) and Ron Baird who also worked there asked if we'd like to join The Trekkas. That was the start of a beautiful friendship and one that has lasted for 42 years. Mick (The Vocalist) Simmons < 14 Dec 06 > I enjoyed Geoff Rees' piece on Rod Stewart playing at the Hop (below). The band he was playing with that night was Jimmy Powell and the Five Dimensions, an outfit from the West Midlands who he played with for about a year. Although at the time he was just a supporting player and virtually unknown Rod Stewart was beginning to mark a mark on the scene both as a harmonica player - he had a card table on stage with him covered in 'harps' - and as a mod stylist with the nickname "Rod the Mod". He left Jimmy Powell after disagreement about his limited role as a singer and took some of the band with him to do a support tour with Chuck Berry. I remember the night well. A week or two earlier there had been an article in NME or Melody Maker about Rod the Mod which concentrated more upon his dress sense than his musical abilities. Rod Stewart was probably the first full blown 'mod' that we had seen with a bouffant hairstyle, checked jacket, tight trousers and a pair of those trendy shoes that we all went on to wear - 'Annello and David' or 'Ravel'. Martyn Day, rhythm guitarist with The Trekkas < 14 Dec 06 > I first started going to the hop with Herbie 45 years ago...... Eric Clapton signed the 'BEANO' album for me there while he was buying a Coca Cola. I was with Mick Taylor the night he played for John Mayall. The DJ was DON'. So many memories. JAB (former Herbal Remedy guitarist) On The night in question I had gone to the hop with ex school/band mates Mick Taylor (Ex Juniors), Alan Shacklock (Ex Juniors / Hi Numbers) And it was after John Mayall had finished his first set without Clapton, that during the break a group of local musicians which included myself, Jab and Herbie and few others along with three Local Guitarist's (Alan Shacklock, Mick Casey (Ex Trekkas) and Mick Taylor were informed that Eric Clapton was in fact not going to make it ........ It was at this point that the three were offered in turn the opportunity to play the 2nd set ....... Two declined and one accepted ...... And that was the night Mick Taylor filled in for Eric Clapton (Never to be forgotten) and if I'm not mistaken I think you'll find that Mick Taylor actually used Clapton's Les Paul, as his Marshall stack and guitar were already on stage awaiting his arrival ....... What a night Mick played like a Bandit. Ex Hopper Danny Bacon Mick Simmons liked to wear his Lincoln Electric welding jacket and toe-tectors on stage! Martyn Day My only memories of playing at The Hop are, I think the guy who ran it was called Les? and when we played there, our extension lead had a 13 amp plug on it and the socket at the back of the stage was a round pin 15 amp one. We had to remove our plug and push the bare wires into the plug socket and hold them there with matchsticks!!! We were doing songs by Sam and Dave, Wilson Picket, Otis Reading and Hendrix in the early years. Danny Bacon has a very good memory for things like that, Yes played there and I have a copy of one of the songs they were performing at the time, they were doing covers! The English Birds were regulars at the Hop and I have all three of their records, the only member of the band to go on to bigger things, as far as I know, was Ron Wood. Ian Adamson bass guitarist with Herbal Remedy < 01 Dec 02 > Thanks for this - It's bloody amazing ! How did you get the info. for The Hop gigs ? I remember Seth Rees very well, and his sidekick " Albert " who sold me a car. Did you know that the Herbal Remedy also played at the Cherry Tree on Sunday nights? - In fact we were the 'Stand-by' band in the event of other bands failing to turn up............. Must contact you again for more reminiscing. Cheers Jab guitarist with Herbal Remedy I almost had a heart attack when I saw the website about The Hop at Woodhall. It was such a long time ago that I thought it had been forgotten... and yet here it was. I was once a proud member of The Trekkas, along with Ron Baird (bass), Mick Casey (lead guitar), Mick Simmons (vocals), Angela Penketh (organ) and Ken Caylor (drums). My time playing in and around Welwyn Garden City was probably the happiest period of my life and its influence remains, because I am still playing. This time it is bass guitar in a rock band and the accordion in a Cajun band. I even got to play at Glastonbury last year. Although we did manage to get one record out- "Please Go" which has now become a collectors item, (£80 for a mint copy!) The Trekkas never added up to much, mainly because we were not writing our own material. For all that we did get to play with some top bands of the time including The Who, The Small Faces, Wilson Pickett, Amen Corner, Zoot Money, Manfred Mann... a rather spotty Reg Dwight before he became Elton John, Jeff Beck (with The Tridents) and many others whose names have disappeared into history ...oops and of course Chris Farlow and Lee Dorsey at The Hop. I'm still in touch with the remaining Trekkas - sadly our brilliant lead guitarist Mick Casey died tragically young - and we still dream of reforming, if only for one number. Then we start arguing about what that number would be! Things never change. Thank you for the happy memories of a great time. We will never see the like of it again. Martyn Day rhythm guitarist with The Trekkas
The mystery unravels. I always remember Paul being a collector of information even in those days. It used to be nice when Paul's family would come over from Hatfield to see The Cortinas perform. Sorry. There aren't any photos and because I didn't keep notes at the time, I don't remember everything. I do remember the Barron Knights. The first time they played the fee was £10! They soon increased it to £20. They used to arrive in a 29 seater coach, straight from their day jobs and my mother used to make them sandwiches! I don't think that today's youth would be happy with a bottle of Pepsi and a flat paper straw as their only source of refreshment, do you? The night the Rod Stewart played was with, I think Long John Baldry. A band member was ill and he asked if Rod could stand in. I remember watching this guy of about 19, long RAF Great coat, standing stage left, but with no stage presence, belting out raw blues vocals and harmonica. Some of the patrons didn't rate him. But I watched and could see a lot of unharnessed talent. As time revealed! I don't remember him being ill in the dressing room as I was probably too busy dishing out the Pepsi! I'll be pleased to make notes about all I remember. It was amazing just discovering your site. Either email me, call me or send your phone number, and try and fill in a few gaps. By the way. I haven't seen Don for a while, but the last I knew he was living in Codicote. I used to bump into him in the shop there. I'll find out if he's still around. Geoff Rees |
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The Cortinas on stage at the Hop in December 1964. Photo provided by Paul Griggs Top |
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Max Baer & The Chicago Setback. Photo provided by Alan Davies |
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The Hop 1965-1969 Dances |
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Fri | 28 May 65 | Paul's Disciples & The Cortinas | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 16 Oct 65 | Hamilton's Movement | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 18 Oct 65 | Son's Of Fred | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 25 Oct 65 | Mark Four | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 01 Nov 65 | Tony Rivers & The Castaways | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 06 Dec 65 | Tony Rivers & The Castaways | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 13 Dec 65 | The Mojos | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 04 Dec 65 | The Hideaways plus The Breed | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 03 Jan 66 | The Paramounts | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 10 Jan 66 | The Birds | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 14 Feb 66 | John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 21 Feb 66 | The Birds | 6/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 28 Feb 66 | The Mike Cotton Sound | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 07 Mar 66 | Paddy, Klaus & Gibson | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 12 Mar 66 | The Trespassers plus The Blues Five | 4/- | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 14 Mar 66 | Chris Farlowe plus The Trekkas | 6/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 04 Apr 66 | Tony Knight's Chessmen | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 18 Apr 66 | JOHN MAYALL'S BLUESBREAKERS with ERIC CLAPTON | 5/- | (7/- at the door) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 25 Apr 66 | The Alan Price Set plus The Op-Scene | 6/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 29 Apr 66 | Mick's Lot (WGC's latest ravers) | 3/- | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 02 May 66 | Cops & Robbers plus The Trekkas | 5/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 05 May 66 | The Mastersounds | 3/- | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 09 May 66 | Zoot Money | 7/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 16 May 66 | The Birds | 6/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 23 May 66 |
Shot Gun Express (ft ROD STEWART) plus Peter B's Lunars |
5/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 04 Jun 66 | The Trekkers | 3/- | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 06 Jun 66 | The Jimmie Brown Sound | 4/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 11 Jun 66 | The Ultimate | 3/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 13 Jun 66 | Diana Ferraz & Nicky Scott | 5/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 20 Jun 66 | The Gass | 4/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 27 Jun 66 | Geno Washington | 6/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 05 Aug 66 | The Trekkas | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 08 Aug 66 | Geno Washington & His Ram Jam Band | 7/6 | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 12 Aug 66 | The Various Others | 3/- | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 13 Aug 66 | The Prowlers | 4/- | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 15 Aug 66 | Dave Anthony's Moods | 5/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 19 Aug 66 | The Trekkas | 3/6 | (8-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 22 Aug 66 | The Gass | 5/- | (7/6 at the door) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 26 Aug 66 | The Ultimate | - | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 29 Aug 66 | The CREAM (ERIC CLAPTON, Jack Bruce, Ginger Baker) + The Chicken Shack | 6/- | (7.30-10.45 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 02 Sep 66 | The Cortinas | 3/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 05 Sep 66 | The Artwoods | 6/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 12 Sep 66 | DAVID BOWIE | 5/- | (7.45-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 17 Sep 66 | The Trekkers | - | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 19 Sep 66 | The Power House (Top Manchester Group) | 4/6 | (7.45-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 26 Sep 66 | The Gass | 5/- | (7.45-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 03 Oct 66 | The Koobas | 5/- | (7.45-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 07 Oct 66 | The Next In Line (AB Recording Artists) | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 10 Oct 66 | Bobby Johnson & The Mighty Atoms | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 14 Oct 66 | Long Tall Short | 3/- | (Girls free) | |||||||||||||
Mon | 24 Oct 66 |
Lee Dorsey, The Gates Of Eden & The Trekkas |
10/- | (7.30-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 03 Dec 66 | The No Names | 3/6 | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Tue | 13 Dec 66 | The Ultimate | 3/- | (7.30-10.30 pm) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 24 Dec 66 | The Cortinas & The Creepers | 5/- | (8-11 pm) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 31 Dec 66 | The Trekkas plus Support | 6/- | (8-12 pm) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 14 Feb 67 | The Cortinas & The Creepers | 4/- | (Valentine Dance) | |||||||||||||
Tue | 22 Jul 67 | The Creepers | 3/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 25 Aug 67 | The Cortinas | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 01 Sep 67 | The Creepers | 3/- | (1/6 before 8) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 08 Sep 67 | The Cortinas | - | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 29 Sep 67 | The Cortinas | 4/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 30 Sep 67 | We Shake Milk (Formally The Creepers) | 3/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 13 Oct 67 | Stacey's Circle | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 20 Oct 67 | Derek Savage Foundation | 4/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 27 Oct 67 | The Cortinas | 4/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 03 Nov 67 | Max Baer's Chicago Setback | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 10 Nov 67 | Stacey's Circle | 4/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 13 Nov 67 | The All Night Workers | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Thu | 16 Nov 67 | Paper Blitz | 4/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 17 Nov 67 | No Dance | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 20 Nov 67 | The Impact | 4/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 24 Nov 67 | The Cortinas | - | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 27 Nov 67 | We Shake Milk | - | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 22 Dec 67 | Stacey's Circle | - | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 23 Dec 67 | The Cortinas & Herbal Remedy | 5/- | (7/6 at the door) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 29 Dec 67 | Jackson Overdrive | 6/- | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 30 Dec 67 | Sioux Nation & We Shake Milk | 7/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 29 Jun 68 | Herbal Remedy | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 06 Sep 68 | The Cortinas | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 11 Apr 69 | The Motion Picture | - | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 22 Aug 69 | Octopus (Formally The Cortinas) | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 29 Aug 69 | Mud | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 05 Sep 69 | High Tension | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 12 Sep 69 | Mixed Bag | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Mon | 08 Sep 69 | The Orange Rainbow (Soul) | - | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 03 Oct 69 | Octopus | - | - | |||||||||||||
Fri | 14 Nov 69 | Octopus | 5/- | - | |||||||||||||
Sat | 29 Nov 69 | Watt Tyler | - | (Blues Workshop) | |||||||||||||
Sat | 06 Dec 69 | Twilly (Don, Jez, Steve & Gary) | 5/- | (4/- before 8) | |||||||||||||
Fri | 19 Dec 69 | Disc Nite | 2/6 | - | |||||||||||||
Tue | 23 Dec 69 | Octopus | 5/- | (Xmas Dance) | |||||||||||||
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Enjoying live music in the late sixties. Photo provided by Paul Griggs |
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